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Title: Mozart test
Post by: pjw on October 14, 2005, 11:14:20 AM
I got 100%. Salieri sounds more like Haydn, that's a good thing to go by. It sounds as though its from an older school of musical thought.


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Title: Mozart test
Post by: Anonymous on October 23, 2005, 01:39:09 AM
I got 90%. Salieri is better than I thought, although I'd heard one of his pieces before and was lukewarm on it. I wavered on number 3 - the aria from a 1789 Salieri opera. I immediately thought "Salieri", but as the music progressed, noticed that some of the aria strongly resembled the music of Figaro, even though it wasn't music from that opera, and could have been safely inserted somewhere with the claim that it was a draft of a rejected aria. 'Early Mozart?" I thought. Perhaps an early Mozart opera I heard long ago but forgot. Maybe... Wrong. It was Salieri after all. Not bad, though - at least, for a snippet. Dave Morton
Title: Mozart test
Post by: Mikhail Simkin on October 29, 2005, 05:06:37 PM
There was an interesting discussion of this quiz on The Classical Music Guide Forum (http://www.classicalmusicguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=8604).
Title: Mozart test
Post by: Anonymous on January 02, 2006, 02:06:43 AM
Quote from: "Anonymous"
I got 90%. Salieri is better than I thought, although I'd heard one of his pieces before and was lukewarm on it. I wavered on number 3 - the aria from a 1789 Salieri opera. I immediately thought "Salieri", but as the music progressed, noticed that some of the aria strongly resembled the music of Figaro, even though it wasn't music from that opera, and could have been safely inserted somewhere with the claim that it was a draft of a rejected aria. 'Early Mozart?" I thought. Perhaps an early Mozart opera I heard long ago but forgot. Maybe... Wrong. It was Salieri after all. Not bad, though - at least, for a snippet. Dave Morton


This is very true, when I listen to the soprano, its so much like Salieri! but as i heard the music more... it sounds like Mozart... i got that wronG! :cry:  shame onme.... but the piano concerto in c is so much liek salieri and non mozart.... hehe
Title: Mozart or Salieri
Post by: artmeliana on January 15, 2006, 08:35:09 AM
I got 60%, even though Mozart was my first love.  If I hadn't vacillated so much on two of them, 7 and 10, I would have got them too.  It's tricky with such short clips; as someone earlier commented, we sometimes need to hear the structural development to differentiate the two composers.

I haven't heard much Salieri, and the only Mozart operas I've heard in their entirety are Le Nozze di Figaro and Die Zauberflote.  

Admittedly, Salieri sounds a lot like Mozart in his general sound but there is a little lugubriousness to his work.
The prize for technicality has to go to our Wolfi.  His frills and trills, signature pauses, and instrumental banter will always bring a spontaneous smile to our lips.
Title: Mozart test
Post by: Anonymous on January 25, 2006, 02:37:08 PM
50% I got the opera ones, but not the instrumentals.

Salieri was crushed by his pupil Beethoven, not by Mozart.  Must be tough to come in 4th best after Hayden.

The real story is Beethoven, who hinted that Salieri murdered Mozart. Or left behind some scribble or other in one of his commonplace books. The point is that Beethoven chose to study (vocal composition) under Salieri. The person who probably knew the story best is the impresario, who's name I can not spell Schickineeder. What Schindler thought of Salieri is anyones guess. Since Schindler got the last word, we will leave it at that.
Title: Mozart test
Post by: Anonymous on January 27, 2006, 03:34:00 PM
only got 70% ..Shame on me !
The only three wonrg were the ones i wasn't sure end up to be Salieri.
Lots of hints in the music
Title: passing
Post by: mp5 on January 27, 2006, 08:07:11 PM
8)  :oops:
i got 50% but will check out the conyemporaries... i wonder what van dyke thinks?
Title: I got 40%
Post by: Phalkaline on February 24, 2006, 10:43:32 PM
Wow! I thought I could recognize the difference between Mozart and Salieri, but, having gotten 60% wrong, I see I need to listen to both more often.  I'd say I was a mountebank, but I don't recognize that word either!  Cheers!
Title: 60%!!
Post by: Jon Bee on March 19, 2006, 08:37:36 PM
At least I scored above random!  This pleases me as I know nothing from Mozart's work (or Salieri's) and little about music.  Honestly, I wouldn't expect to do much better distinguishing Vivaldi from Chopin!  (At least I know they're quite different, but say if someone played Vivaldi on a piano and Chopin on a harpsichord I'd probably be completely baffled.)
Title: Mozart test
Post by: Midiogre on May 21, 2006, 04:22:26 PM
I played piano for years so I could recognize the more instrumental pieces for Mozart and ended up with 80%, having missed one for both Mozart and Salieri for the vocal pieces. I have to say though that I really enjoyed the Salieri pieces, especially the vocal stuff.
Title: Mozart test
Post by: Flybane on August 03, 2006, 03:01:42 PM
I didn't recognize any of the pieces but still got a 90% - better than I had thought at all.  I thought the one from Don Giovanni was Salieri though - I really ought to actually hear the thing for once.  Maybe I've heard the Mozart snips without realizing it in the past?  Consciously, though, I thought the Mozart clips seemed to have longer, smoother melodic phrases and he had a different style of bass sounds somehow.
Title: Mozart test
Post by: elamont on February 05, 2007, 08:23:57 AM
I had a hard time recognizing some of the pieces. I got an 80% but I feel like I should have done better. Oh well. C'est la vie....
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Title: not bad
Post by: noll_jm on February 17, 2007, 09:58:33 PM
i got an 80%.  mozart has a more simplistic pulse that really makes you feel the emotion.
Title: Mozart test
Post by: elamont on February 24, 2007, 03:28:56 PM
I suppose I did alright then! :)
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Title: Mozart test
Post by: Mikhail Simkin on February 24, 2007, 07:38:37 PM
Quote from: "elamont"
I suppose I did alright then! :)
Erin

Yes. Some professional classical musicians got a 50% on this test.
Title: Mozart test
Post by: ronessiasmith on March 15, 2007, 12:03:59 AM
hey i got 80% and i just discovered mozart recently.salieri was good but i  dont believe  they sound the same at all
Title: Mozart test
Post by: guest on March 18, 2007, 06:46:24 PM
I got 90%, mostly due to my familiarity with Maestro Salieri's music. That Mozart guy's stuff wasn't too bad. Perhaps I'll give him a listen someday.
Title: Mozart/Salieri
Post by: Wagnersen on April 06, 2007, 02:20:02 PM
Ha,I got 100 %- this was fun. I simply think Salieri really is a tragic composer-and it's not that hard to hear. He's not very much helped by a horrible singer like Bartoli,though.  :( Mozart on the other hand,clearly rises above such bad musicianship!
Title: Mozart test
Post by: Darcy in Turkey on May 29, 2007, 03:10:27 PM
It really isn't all that hard to distinguish Salieri from Mozart. :)

First, most of the Mozart is immediately recogisable.  Even if, say, you can't recall his piano concerto no. 18 (the last piece), as I didn't, it sounds like Mozart.

Second, Salieri may be a pleasant composer, but to mistake his piano concertos for Mozart is inexcusable.  The orchestration is plodding, the lyrical line missing, the flair non-existent.

That being said, the opera pieces were not altogether unpleasing. :-P
Title: Mozart test
Post by: Anonymous on August 24, 2007, 02:58:44 PM
I have never played piano, have never heard Salieri's music, have heard some concerts of Mozart, and i got 50%............................
i couldn't distinguish one from another. feel ashamed.......................
Title: Mozart test
Post by: Anonymous on August 30, 2007, 11:12:40 AM
fun fun fun!

Thank you for this most entertaining test. (I got 80%) Lovely performances too!

You don't happen to have a Mozart/Haydn test as well?  :D
Title: Mozart test
Post by: Mikhail Simkin on August 30, 2007, 01:45:02 PM
Quote from: "Anonymous"
You don't happen to have a Mozart/Haydn test as well?  :D

No. All tests I have a here: Reverent Quizzes (http://reverent.org/quizzes.html).

There exists an opinion (http://www.rense.com/general45/mozrt.htm) that some of music, attributed to Mozart, was in reality written by Michael Haydn (younger brother of Franz Josef Haydn).